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Sensible Solution Committee Strikes Again

Sensible Solution Committee Strikes Again

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Posterguy Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 9 years ago   Nov 1, '14 9:15am  
to Jennifer (a concerned citizen)
regarding our deed restrictions , do you think the board should allow garage apartments? several members would like their elderly parents or kids to live with them and with many of our homes having detached garages these are ideal for apartments.
 
Since you are concerned with the administration of our HOA, I'm sure you have an opinion.
 
@tb505:
 
We know that she has more than an opinion, we know what she has over her garage.
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 1, '14 9:54am  
"I think they should take everything and dump it into your laps (bbk, posterboy, justsatin, undecided, tflea and imabeliever). Even though, IN MY OPINION, a couple of you are the same person. Actually, that makes 5, right? The amount that makes up the board? Since you think everyone else has something they have done wrong or are hiding, I think you should be given a chance to prove yourself. "- finkle
 
"I think they should take everything and dump it into your laps (bbk, posterboy, justsatin, undecided, tflea and imabeliever). "
 
finkle, that is exactly what we are doing - We are exposing this , dragging all of this into the light, sunlight is a great disinfectant and yes fink it is being dumped in peoples laps so that they know.
 
You can not know what is being hidden from you.
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bbk Active Indicator LED Icon 11
~ 9 years ago   Nov 1, '14 10:12am  
I think they should take everything and dump it into your laps (bbk, posterboy, justsatin, undecided, tflea and imabeliever). Even though, IN MY OPINION, a couple of you are the same person. Actually, that makes 5, right? The amount that makes up the board? Since you think everyone else has something they have done wrong or are hiding, I think you should be given a chance to prove yourself.
 
Yes, of course I'm kidding. Sorry, I'm just tired as I get the job of taking kids trick or treating while dad gets to hand out candy from home. Anyway, That wouldn't be the sensible thing to do. That's why I'm going to trust The SENSIBLE SOLUTION COMMITTEE and vote for their candidates. I think they should be given a chance.
 
I believe in this. I trust in this. I truly don't believe they are trying to hide anything, in fact, I think their goal is to make sure EVERYTHING gets put out in the open. Full disclosure and complete transparency.
 
We need to try. And we all need to try and get along. Life is too short to keep this battle going year after year. Aren't you tired of it?
 
@FinkleEinhorn:
 
They have had 5 yrs to make sure EVERYTHING gets put out in the open THEY don't even go to meetings 99% of the time go look at the facts for yourself look at the minutes on our website & look at the sign in sheet .Oh & for some reason which the Board just looked at each other & said nothing they took all the 2012 minutes off the website & took off Dec ,Jan ,Feb of ,March, April , & May of 2013 that were up on our website . I believe they also had a couple thing from 2011 that are no longer there . After a fairly long pause our management company just jumped right on in there & answered & said oh we're just having 2014 on there . So all of the time spent in the past loading this stuff on there & SOMEHOW & I say somehow because not 1 on the board in authority to speak opened their mouth at all period .So what meeting was it voted on to remove all this info off our website . Wish someone had thought to ask Leigh that question since she has answers that our board does not have .
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 1, '14 10:36am  
I think they should take everything and dump it into your laps (bbk, posterboy, justsatin, undecided, tflea and imabeliever). Even though, IN MY OPINION, a couple of you are the same person. Actually, that makes 5, right? The amount that makes up the board? Since you think everyone else has something they have done wrong or are hiding, I think you should be given a chance to prove yourself.
 
Yes, of course I'm kidding. Sorry, I'm just tired as I get the job of taking kids trick or treating while dad gets to hand out candy from home. Anyway, That wouldn't be the sensible thing to do. That's why I'm going to trust The SENSIBLE SOLUTION COMMITTEE and vote for their candidates. I think they should be given a chance.
 
I believe in this. I trust in this. I truly don't believe they are trying to hide anything, in fact, I think their goal is to make sure EVERYTHING gets put out in the open. Full disclosure and complete transparency.
 
We need to try. And we all need to try and get along. Life is too short to keep this battle going year after year. Aren't you tired of it?
 
@FinkleEinhorn:
Are you serious ? we need to try & get along ? Life is to short to keep this battle going year after year Aren't you tired of it ? Is that what you think this is a battle this is a WANTED fight of some kind ? Some of us want our questions answered . Is that WRONG TO EXPECT FROM THIS BOARD ? THERE ARE LAWS that protect the homeowners & they are given by law a certain amount of time to get the info to you BY LAW . Husband sent a letter & they did not send everything he requested . I sent a letter asking for other stuff & even sent a reminder email & THEY ANSWERED NOTHING I ASKED FOR AND I DO MEAN NOTHING ! I have all info showing the date I sent & the date they received & signed for my letter .I followed our governing documents & law as to how I get the info I wanted & THEY DID NOT !!!!! Damn right I am tired . So you think I should not be **** I spent money did everything I was suppose to do to get the answers I wanted & by law they had to produce . Oh & this was stuff they should have answered in the meetings . I am not asking for someone's PERSONAL information I am asking to see things I have a right to see .
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JustSayn Active Indicator LED Icon 6 OP 
~ 9 years ago   Nov 1, '14 10:37am  
Now, when a member wants to go back and read the minutes they are not on our web site. The management, the board telling them to do so, will tell members if they want the minutes they will have to send a certified letter to Sterlings office asking for exactly which minutes they want and will charge that member money to get those minutes.
 
Now why do you suppose they would do such a thing? Why make it so hard to see our own associations minutes? Go take a look at the long minutes on MUD 132's site. They have the minutes posted back to 2005. WHAT?? 2005?? Wow, and their minutes are in great detail of what actually happened the night of each meeting.
 
ACIA can only put up one year, the present. But Ric, Sue, and Anthony are all about transparency, right?? Why did they vote to do such a thing. Sterling does not tell the board what is to be done, the board tells Sterling what THEY want done.
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 1, '14 10:44am  
"That's why I'm going to trust The SENSIBLE SOLUTION COMMITTEE and vote for their candidates. I think they should be given a chance."- finkle
 
fink - trust The SENSIBLE SOLUTION COMMITTEE candidates have been in the majority (that means they have control of the association) for a year and oh what a bad year for the ACIA it has been. Tells us all about the facts of our financial situation.
 
How much money do we have in our reserve account now?
 
As of July 2013 we had $ 258,600.13. in the reserve fund- Yes fink that is a fact.
 
Show us the 2012 and 2013 financial audits- Oh that's right you can't because they have not been done or released.
 
Please tell us how much has been spent on our irrigation system since Sept 2013?
 
How much have we spent on legals?
 
fink please stick to the facts if you claim to have them.
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 1, '14 10:50am  
Okay, that is absolutely, positively the last comment from me. My upcoming schedule is extremely full and I won't have time for these lovely chats.
 
I just hope the residents of the ACIA direct questions or concerns to members of the Sensible Solution Committee, or to actual board members, instead of taking all the slamming at face value. I picked up on several "non truths" in a few of their rants. That's what actually forced me to investigate/verify on my own. Do yourself a favor, don't take anyone's words on this forum as gospel. Find out for yourself.
 
Have a good weekend!
 
@FinkleEinhorn:
WHAT !!!!!!! You think the sensible solution committee should answer questions instead of the board ???? Wow did all of us vote the SSC into office is that the problem here I need to direct my questions to them ?
You say you picked up on several non truths in a few rants . I always request people to go read the minutes for theirselves if I have made a mistake you should correct me & make certain to the best of your ability that people see the correct answer .I am asking you to put these " NON TRUTHS UP ON THIS SITE & do an @ BBK PLEASE . That is the right thing to do .
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 1, '14 10:57am  
Okay, that is absolutely, positively the last comment from me. My upcoming schedule is extremely full and I won't have time for these lovely chats.
 
I just hope the residents of the ACIA direct questions or concerns to members of the Sensible Solution Committee, or to actual board members, instead of taking all the slamming at face value. I picked up on several "non truths" in a few of their rants. That's what actually forced me to investigate/verify on my own. Do yourself a favor, don't take anyone's words on this forum as gospel. Find out for yourself.
 
Have a good weekend!
 
@FinkleEinhorn:
 
By the way do you go to ALL the meetings ??? If you did you would know SSCommittee does not come to the meetings , that upon occasion B G comes but not very often at all ..
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 1, '14 11:03am  
Finkle---If someone post something on here that is not factual or truthful then have them answer for it so they might have a chance to correct. Don't just accuse them that it is wrong then go hide. You want to trust SSC, great. I will trust what I have seen happening on our board since the golf course debacle.
 
I have seen three new board members put on the board by the SSC. They have all run on transparency yet the board gets more and more secretive. The board does not want the members to know what they are doing. They handle business in executive session (hour long each month) that should be heard by the members. They have "workshops" that members cannot attend. They have appeals for ACC that the members cannot hear. They never give their reasons for overturning an ACC decision. They just inform the members all you have the right to know is the answer "yes" or "no" not the "why" and backing up their decisions with the deed restrictions.
 
After SSC got Jon and Anthony elected suddenly the board started to look for a buyer for the wetlands in Pinehurst Section 8. They did this behind the members back. Just when did the board discuss this matter? It wasn't at the monthly meetings. The law says whenever a quorum of the board meets and discuss association business it must be open to the membership. This is just one example of many things that are discussed and implemented behind the members backs. So I absolutely scoff every time I hear these people tout transparency. It is only a buzz word to trick those who do not attend meetings and know nothing that goes on in this association and how it is being run.
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Posterguy Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 9 years ago   Nov 1, '14 11:07am  
BBK I am just getting warmed up.
 
fink-Please tell us who had the majority on the board when ACC members were getting kicked out of ACC hearings and told they would be arrested if they were on the premises for the Association meeting.
 
- I know you won't say it so I will say it , the majority were secret solution committee candidates and Ric.-Fact
 
Please tell us who was on the board when the ACC members were falsely accused and removed from the ACC.?
 
- Again secret solution committee candidates and Ric were the majority- Fact
 
When one ACC member was not allowed to speak in his defense regarding these accusations, and was ordered removed by the police who was in the majority?
 
- secret solution candidates and Ric- Fact
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Posterguy Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 9 years ago   Nov 1, '14 11:39am  
"I believe in this. I trust in this. I truly don't believe they are trying to hide anything, in fact, I think their goal is to make sure EVERYTHING gets put out in the open. Full disclosure and complete transparency."-finkle
 
Well the question begs to be asked if they want "Full disclosure and complete transparency" and they have been in the majority, why have we not received "Full disclosure and complete transparency"?
 
Where are the 2012 and 2013 audits fink?
 
And then there is this -
 
"After SSC got Jon and Anthony elected suddenly the board started to look for a buyer for the wetlands in Pinehurst Section 8. They did this behind the members back. Just when did the board discuss this matter? It wasn't at the monthly meetings. The law says whenever a quorum of the board meets and discuss association business it must be open to the membership."- Justsayin
 
fink- I was at the meetings and I know this to be true, it is confirmed by the meeting minutes.
 
So how do you account for this fink?
 
You truthfully cannot.
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Posterguy Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 9 years ago   Nov 1, '14 11:49am  
" Do yourself a favor, don't take anyone's words on this forum as gospel. Find out for yourself. "- finkle
 
Speaking of the gospel I really like this one.
 
John 8: 32-
 
"And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
 
Free from the tyranny and abuse that we ACIA members have been subjected to for the last year and a half.
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Posterguy Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 9 years ago   Nov 1, '14 12:00pm  
Vote By Laws for Accountability and Transparency
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 1, '14 12:03pm  
My statement about asking questions was if folks have questions about the SSB.
 
I realize and understand are all very passionate about what you believe is the truth. I totally understand. What I don't understand is what solution you are proposing.
 
What is your solution?
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Posterguy Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 9 years ago   Nov 1, '14 12:04pm  
Vote By Laws for Accountability and Transparency
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