@southernmomma : I have not ever heard anyone say they would shoot someone if they didn't have a mask on, and yes that's extreme. I also don't shame people if they don't want to wear one, but I do ask that everyone does. Believe what you want, I don't believe that their putting carcinogens or heavy metals in the vaccines that their working on either, but like I said believe whatever your websites tell you to do. Also never heard that one. Where do you get your medical info from? I know nothing about you, so don't care one way or the other what you do. I'm just sick of having to stay home and away from my family. As for this not being new, every thing about this is new. I've lived 65 years and never seen anything like this, and I grew up depending on my elders having the knowledge to guide me. . Good luck and I pray you don't catch it.

I will never shame you, do what you want to do, but please just know the truths and the consequences. That's all I ask.

@Andi7 : I just reread this and am curious where we can go without a mask. I've been stalking Goodwill for some office chairs and this made me think that I haven't seen the "you have to wear a mask" there.

@ladybeachbum : There have been a small few places that don't have signs out but the employees wear masks and don't asks their patrons to wear them. I've visited places in montgomery county that don't require a mask and it was a hit or miss whether the employees wore masks anyways.

@Andi7 : Montgomery county didn't make them, I don't think. I forget to go there. I'm so used to the mask it doesn't bother me much but it is off as soon as I leave the store.

I had a solicitor come to the door today without mask.
In my best old woman southern charm I said I am sorry I can't talk to you and God Blessed him on his way.

[quote-tag-mismatch]: I don't need you to judge or shame me. And I certainly won't do that to you no matter how much hate you toss at me. I care about my elderly parents but they don't wear masks around me and I don't wear one around them. Because we made that choice together. We still spend quality time together, hug and laugh and have since this mess started. Same with my closest friends. I go to the store and wear a mask if the store requires it. I've gone to stores that don't and didn't wear my mask. ; If you wear a mask and still got someone else sick does that make you a murderer? In my opinion, no. There are so many other ways to get the virus beyond wearing the mask.; In the grand scheme of things, live your life the best way you can and as happy as you can because we all don't get off this rock alive. @Andi7 : Believe it or not I'm giving my opinion in general to what you said .I didn't intend to ridicule you .. sorry it was taken that way .You said you still think it should be a choice to wear one or not & not be policed or ridiculed pandemics don't last forever . My question is why do you think it should be a choice to wear one or not wear one . To me that 's like telling a world renown doctor who served 6 presidents you don't know what your talking about , so I don't choose to wear one . Dr fauci has said you can be a carrier of this virus & not know that you are . Wearing a mask is such a small thing to be asked to do & listening to the epidemiologist to me seems like a much better idea than listening to Trump .But that's 1 opinion of many .

@bbk : I don't think Fauci has a lot of real experience being a doctor but book smart. I, also, don't think we should be told we have to do any of this but do it if we believe it will help. I believe the mask might slow it down for those of us that are wearing and my son and I are careful. However, DH is in several states and he wears those paper crap things and has been out there since day 1 because our business is essential. He's probably been healthier than normal. He's been in business places where once he told me the company had 8 people out, he was quarantined from us. His choice is to take care of is business and my choice is to keep my son and I healthy. But see...it is a CHOICE or should be. If someone is afraid or need to make sure they don't get it, they should stay at home. I believe our freedoms will be forever gone if Biden should win but then we do still have choices. People living on social security won't have a choice. There will be a lot of freedoms changed unless we have another war right here on US land.

@bbk : You accused me of not caring for others. That was the stab. But when it comes to a virus, no one can have control over it because it will do what it wants and could mutate. To what end will we all be required to wear masks. I do understand they can help with minimize the spread but the spread will still happen none the less. If everyone wore masks all the time no matter what, will we started getting mad at people for not wearing gloves, not cleaning everything that gets touched moments after being touched, etc, etc. It's unrealistic in my opinion.

@chasinghosts : First page of this discussions shooting those that don't wear a mask was a "suggestion" Read the actual vaccine inserts from the FDA. You might be very surprised what is actually in all those vaccines you agree to. A few ingredients:Aborted fetal cells
Bovine serum
Canine kidney cells
Formaldehyde
Aluminum
Mercury
Gelatin
Sulfa drugs

@southernmomma : Please inform me which vaccines have these if you already know. Using animals for research has been illegal for many years. I don't have inserts for any vaccines. Have never gotten one either. I do have them for my meds, but I can't read all those, way too many. Also I guess I didn't pay attention to the shooting comment because it was ridiculous, so I forgot about it. So many comments in between. Anyway, you can't shoot anyone over it either. If you kids had eaten the stuff we did as kids, went to school with kids with Polio and other diseases that we have done away with, or even ventured outside on your own after dark, you might be a little less terrified over a vaccine, and paid closer attention on how to stop these Pandemics. If you want some really interesting reading look up Black aka Bubonic Plague, Yellow Fever, Polio, Typhoid, Small Pox & Cholera and how they ravaged entire cities. Then think about how many people lived in these communities, maybe a couple thousand at most, then think about how many live in the local communities now, and how a viral spread can devistate. Anyway good luck this go round.

@chasinghosts : Here's a few since you refuse to read vaccine inserts. The information is not hard to find and is typically listed under section 11. Description.Flu vaccine: depending on the manufacture is either made with chicken egg embryos or canine kidney cells, along with inactive flu strains (H1N1, H3N2, Flu B), Formaldehyde, Octylphhenol ethoxylate, sodium phosphate, mercury. The Fluzone Quadrivalent was tested on rabbits.Shingles vaccine - Shingrix (zoster Vaccine) is made by genetically engineered Chinese Hamster Ovary cells (other manufactures for shingles and chicken pox use aborted human fetal cells), MPL from Salmonella minnesota and range of other ingredients (DOPC, cholesterol, sodium chloride). Tested on rats. MMR: uses chick embryos as wells as aborted human lung tissue, live rubella virus, live mumps virus, bovine serum, sucrose, sodium phosphate, potassium chloride, MRC-5 cells with DNA, among other ingridients.

@Anurania : How is this not a threat????

@southernmomma : I went round and round with my niece on the subject of ingredients in vaccines and what they mean and also, what is not in them as others claim. Here's a couple of links I had shared with her when she had concerns for her babies.www.kdheks.gov/immun ize/download/Facts_a bout_Childhood_Vacci ne_Ingredients.
bethevoice.typepad.c om/vax_info_resource s/cdc%20vaccine%20in gredients%20.pdI've always told her to look into any issues she may be having in greater detail so she can better understand the process. The words alone can be alarming but if you have a deeper understanding of what each of them mean and their function, then you can make a more informed decision. She had a bad habit of reading the points of view of other ordinary people than the true research that scientists have done.

@Andi7 : Honestly, when is the last time you've had a doctor really explain all of the risk involved when getting a shot? I can tell, it's never happened. (Hepatitis B shot can cause the flu, Tetanus shot can cause seizures)They do not tell you about the kid that just left via ambulance after receiving the HPV vaccine. Perfectly healthy kid before hand that is now going to suffer from severe seizures for months if not years; and received the vaccine because it was advise/stressed/pushed on the parents. They won't tell you about the $4.2 billion paid out to families due to vaccine reactions. As someone that has suffered from a vaccine reaction as a child I can tell you the things in them are not "okay" for people to blindly take and doctors, nurses, and all medical staff should be further educated on the full list of ingredients as well as ALL the side effects that are possible. The only side effects they are aware of and will discuss with you is that your arm will be sore and you might run a fever. I don't trust big pharma. They make us sick and then want to also provide the band-aid... it doesn't make sense. Information can be spoon fed ad-nauseum but it doesn't matter if people aren't willing to step outside the box and see the big picture. The government, big pharma and MSM do not care about you, they care about themselves and lining their pocketbooks.