@Sammiejo :
So your saying you and we are paying for those not signing a contract ?

@Sammiejo :Could you explain why any subdivision would not want to be the contract holder?That is a very interesting statement. The smaller HOA's use to fight to have the contract. I called it big dog/little dog mentality. Big dog had the bone and little dog wanted the bone and would scrap and fight and yell until little dogs all got a chance to have the bone. Are you telling me that the old guard is dead and now little dogs don't want it?

@bbk No! that's not what I'm saying and I'm not sure where in my posts you thought I was saying it. More than one subdivision is on the contract but one subdivision "holds" the contract. That subdivision pays for the contract and bills the other subdivisions for their portion of said contract. The price each subdivision pays is based on the number of homes in that subdivision. So if that isn't clear enough for you it means each subdivision does not pay the same amount as the other due to the fact not all the subdivisions have the same number of homes. Now have we nit-picked this issue enough? Or do you want to go a couple of more rounds?

@JustSayn That I have no clue too as the subdivision that holds the contract has done so for several years. Maybe it's because the other HOA's don't want to deal with collecting monies from the other subdivisions. Honestly, your guess is as good as mine!

Sammiejo I just know at one time the smaller subdivision's all wanted to hold the contract and I find it hard to believe that has changed. Plus all these subdivisions have a property manager and they would do the collection no problem there for the board.

@Sammiejo I thought that is what YOU meant sorry & I was asking when I said ?????

@JustSayn So you think that the board doesn't get involved in the collections part of the business and it's all left up to the property management company? Really? Who do you think approves of the collection letters/notices and everything else involved with the process?

The Board, and it is done in one word, approved. Takes a few seconds.To address your first question, yes, I do think it is the property manager who makes sure that the security payment is collected and any other collection that is in their contract to oversee, which is most likely everything. Why wouldn't it be?

@JustSayn IMO some boards must do more than others because approval and decisions on most matters don't take just seconds.

Only a small subdivision's board, that does not have a property manager, would get involved in collections. Atasca Woods has a property manager, as does the other HOA's we have been discussing. How many seconds do you think it takes when a property manager ask a board if they want to send a letter to "whoever" asking for payment?And in most instances that property manager will not even be asking that question, because they oversee the collections and make sure it is taken care of. We started this about collections, remember?

@JustSayn Not sure how your board works but the board members stay after the regular meetings to discuss many matters, one being collections and it's not done in seconds.

@JustSayn The board doesn't discuss the matters of collection in an open meeting as people's names are mentioned and it's not something we would want discussed in an open setting, don't you agree?

Let's get back to how this discussion you have us going down started. You said "Maybe it's because the other HOA's don't want to deal with collecting monies from the other subdivisions."We are talking about "collecting monies" from the other subdivisions who participate in the security contract, right?Now you have us talking about collecting monies from members who I guess refuse to pay their maintenance fees??So, just what do you want to discuss? Cause you are getting us off subject.

@Posterguy: Not that it matters because this thread has taken on a life of it's own, but the Channel 11 list is in alphabetical order, so Atascocita isn't #1. There are other's on the list that have more "days with discrepancies." just sayin'

@Sammiejo It would be against the law to talk about the money a homeowner owes the association . As of a couple years ago that law came into effect . So that type of collection can't be discussed in the open session . But what we owe another association for the constable contract would be all homeowners business . Just using that as an example.