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Well guess what you folks south of 1960 are getting , a...

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757beach Active Indicator LED Icon 14
~ 8 years ago   Jan 18, '16 9:11pm  
Go to the sales office and ask.
 
I was under the impression dr horton owns. The map on har wss old, however the land for legends homes is now commercial.
 
Seems like both maps are outdated or i dont know.
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Smokeybear Active Indicator LED Icon 8 Forum Moderator
~ 8 years ago   Jan 18, '16 9:20pm  
Going out on a limb here, but with regards to the detention facility I think we're talking WATER not people.
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blueyes Active Indicator LED Icon 15
~ 8 years ago   Jan 18, '16 9:21pm  
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HumbleGirl Active Indicator LED Icon 15
~ 8 years ago   Jan 18, '16 9:37pm  
@Smokeybear Yeah. You would be correct.
 
A detention basin or retarding basin is an excavated area installed on, or adjacent to, tributaries of rivers, streams, lakes or bays to protect against flooding and, in some cases, downstream erosion by storing water for a limited period of time.
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redneck roy Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 8 years ago   Jan 18, '16 9:45pm  
If you review the HCAD map blocks 3 +4 you will see planned street layout, street names are interesting, tiny subdivided lots, park.
 
interesting - maybe planned and abandoned?
 
not water
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HumbleGirl Active Indicator LED Icon 15
~ 8 years ago   Jan 18, '16 9:52pm  
@redneck roy Squares 2, 3, and 4, right? Those don't really look like houses...they look different from the other obvious housing sections. But then I'm no expert in these drawings. But I'm 1000% sure that that valuable land wouldn't be used for a jail. 😜
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bbk Active Indicator LED Icon 11 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Jan 18, '16 10:13pm  
Going out on a limb here, but with regards to the detention facility I think we're talking WATER not people.

@Smokeybear :
 
It says on the map Future Regional DETENTION FACILITY not RETENTION . So I'm pretty sure they are speaking of DETAINING people & not water . I'm not screaming at you just pointing out the difference
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~ 8 years ago   Jan 18, '16 10:22pm  
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bbk Active Indicator LED Icon 11 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Jan 18, '16 10:23pm  
the posted map is 2009; although the HCAD map confuses (frustrates) me. here is propaganda from 2011

@redneck roy :
I see where the company 1951 Interests LP( was formed) on Aug 24,2007 or 9 yrs ago . I didn't see anything giving a date of the map that shows the Detention Facility. ****Was perhaps a mistake made & it was suppose to say Retention instead of Detention **** ?
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bbk Active Indicator LED Icon 11 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Jan 18, '16 10:31pm  
But I'm 1000% sure that that valuable land wouldn't be used for a jail

@HumbleGirl :
From what Beach said up above & I don't know where her info came from but.... she said it is to low to build on . I f that is true you perhaps could buy at a low price ???
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redneck roy Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 8 years ago   Jan 18, '16 10:33pm  
the street map within the detention area lists the street names and avenues 1-14, street names, tuskegee, prairie view, booker, and a park (liberty park)
 
I'm thinking not a water attraction.....
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bbk Active Indicator LED Icon 11 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Jan 18, '16 10:46pm  
@redneck roy I 100 % agree if it was WATER retention they would have no need for the words Future ( REGIONAL ) Detention Facility . I have never heard of any retention pound being called A Regional Retention pond or Facility . The map showing streets I don't picture someone spending money to draw & name streets if it is to low of land to build on . They may have planed a sub & then changed their minds & who ever owned it sold it for what ever . If the owner gets the price they want why care about the people around them .
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Clydepuckett Active Indicator LED Icon 11
~ 8 years ago   Jan 18, '16 11:01pm  
@bbk
 
( REGIONAL ) Detention Facility .
 
They do exist for the record.....Braeburn CC golf course is just one example I can think of......
 
It is a retention facility, but water can either be retained or detained.....
 
That's why you see the large storm detention next to Walmarts in some places......permanent storage. Avoids paying exorbitant impact fees to cities and MUDs.
 
I'm with Smokey, I think this is drainage mitigation.......could be wrong....otherwise enjoy the convicts down there. We are counting on you guys to cover our southern flank up here.....
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Smokeybear Active Indicator LED Icon 8 Forum Moderator
~ 8 years ago   Jan 18, '16 11:53pm  
My thought process on this was that the area is basically locked between the railroad and the lake. It could be developed by expanding subdivisions adjacent to,the land. If a jail facility were to be built it would have to have access through developed neighborhoods. There isn't a way to have a dedicated road into the area. No one would want this including the facility managers.
 
I think it was labeled a Regional Facility is that it would serve a large area, basically the map, and not just one development. Detention and retention ponds are two different flood control management practices. A detention pond receives water at a high rate then releases it through an outfall at a slower rate essentially detaining the water. A Retention pond receives the water but does not have an outfall keeping all the water or retaining it. This water is then allowed to percolate into the ground or evaporate. For many years I too was confused by the terms often interchanging them when in fact they were different. Detention is more commonly used in Harris and surrounding counties. Many developers hide detention ponds by making a water feature in the development. Ponds are dug deeper than necessary so they can hold water and still have the required water storage capacity. These lakes are landscaped and enhance the project but in reality they are detention ponds.
 
I have some contacts with Harris County Flood Control , I'll make a few calls. Also have some with TDCJ but think I will keep with the positive vibes.
 
My two cents.........
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Clydepuckett Active Indicator LED Icon 11
~ 8 years ago   Jan 19, '16 12:11am  
@Smokeybear
 
Many developers hide detention ponds by making a water feature in the development.
 
In Florida, most Aparment complexes have "lakes" in the name.....can't release storm water in the public system.....so, let's make it an amenity.......lol.
 
As you say, detain means slow it down......retain means you got it forever. Hence my Walmart comment......cheaper to dig a big hole than pay extortionist impact fees to government. Land development 101......
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