@niceguy

I look at it differently...In elections, The President gets far more votes that any single member of the House or Senate, and as such he/she is the speaker for the most people...He sets the direction and the vision for the country, of which the people have agreed to and therefore voted for...He doesn't get into office and then say he wants this or that...He campaigned on those platforms and the people voted for it...Now it's up to the Congress to provide the necessary tools (new infrastructure, a restructure, funding, etc.) to bring that direction into existence for the people, not the President...He/She shouldn't have to pull strings, do tricks, or beg a body of legislators to provide what the people voted for...
Don't want to get into this one again...I'll just say that they know it's good and want to kill it before it's proven to be so as they don't want the Democrats to "look good" when that happens...Plus, they are probably making promises to many paying entities to keep trying to kill it...
I'd do it with a whale, if I could find a carnivorous one!

@EddyFree
Lol...it is there...and I will tell you are completely wrong about the Construction industry and labor costs.

@EddyFree
Wouldn't you agree that the E Verify system (as cbp210) mentioned previously, should be mandatory to verify legal status and legal SS documents for each and every person in order to prevent the big guys from taking advantage of illegal immigrants?

back to the op - Glad this is being settled in the courts - what I think is interesting is that with the masses of illegals in country - there is NOBODY lobbying to deport them all; round them up or otherwise. They all more or less agree (even if not publicly) that that while there is a limited budget to spend deporting folks (I think Ted Cruz would even agree on not overspending here) - they have to target the expenditures where they are most beneficial - like criminals - I think the intent of Obama's order was to provide some guidance on where to focus efforts - (or where not to waste efforts deporting productive - economically contributing people). He likely went about it wrong - but even with it being struck down in the courts - I doubt there will be any increase in efforts to deport the people this was intended to protect from deportation - while winning some political points from the Hispanic community. Not too far off from the political points Perry was shooting for when he granted instate tuition rates.

@EddyFree I guess we will just agree to disagree. Yes, he gets more votes than anyone in Congress - because he/she is running in more areas than anyone in Congress. He/she runs nationwide. No one else that I can think of runs nationwide. And, look at the popular vote totals. In 2012, Obama won by less than 4%. 49% of America did not vote for him. So, 49% of the population did not buy into his agenda enough to vote for him. Yes he has the most votes, but he only had 51% of the votes cast. 63.3 million people did not buy into what he was offering. If you want anarchy, institute legislation that ignores the desires of 49% of those that are being governed! And, if Presidents want to get something done, they have to do what they have to do. You think Presidents don't lobby Congress? There are famous photos and reports of all the arm twisting that LBJ had to do in Congress to get his civil rights programs passed. Why do you think Presidents have Congressmen to the White House for meetings, dinners, etc. You really think that they are just discussing the NBA playoffs? They are lobbying and being lobbied. I completely disagree with "it is good". In the most recent polls I can find, more than half of the country says that they "Disapprove/Oppose" of the legislation. Since it has been in place for over five years, when to we start to find out that we like it? Parts of it are good and parts of it aren't. You can talk all night and not convince me that, coincidentally, only the Dems know that this was good legislation and ALL the Repubs did't. Sorry, no. The votes went along party lines because the ruling elite of the Dem Party wanted it rammed through and the ruling elite of the Repubs did not want it shoved down their throat. Strong arm politics never work. And now the country is paying the price.And the stagnation continues.

@cbp210 I agree it is an important issue, then why doesn't the Republican congress present a bill.
Everybody knows the answer - money. Someone is certainly utilizing their labor for their benefit. As the great majority of immigrants have thruout history, most come to better their economic position. If placed in the same position, I doubt if there would be any that post here that would not do the same.

@EddyFree Oh they are doing that too as they have fake social security numbers so they can file their taxes plus there is no record of legit employment so they can file for welfare.

@rocket I used to believe that but now not anymore. It seems people who are what is considered in the deportable class have been ignored. Technicalities were created by policy makers who are also lawyers so go and gripe with them about technicalities.

@tb505 No the republicans are worried about being labeled villains rather than a money issue. You do not need to remind me of the importance of immigration as my mother was a immigrant but the one thing I can say is there is a huge difference between her where she knocked on the door to America as compared to the illegals where they trespass and invaded and are stealing our resources.

^^^^ yep...big difference

@Fairlane67
Where? Show me where "undocumented" people get food stamps....And are you saying that home prices would be unaffected if the cheap labor of "illegals" was eliminated and replaced with higher priced "American" labor?

@EddyFree
Back to E verify...thoughts?

@Fairlane67Don't really know much about it...Is it something that "higher-end" companies are pushing for in order to "level the playing field" with those who have cheap labor in their chain somewhere and thus are undercutting them in bids?I just don't see how it's not easily circumvented...I'd think several "big guys" who want to take advantage of the situation hire legit on the outside, knowing that there is questionable employment on the deep inside...For example, a main contractor will hire several completely legitimate "subcontractors" to build parts of the project, but several of those subcontractors are using cheap "illegals" as labor...The main contractor's hands are "clean" in that situation...So would the "E-Verify System" apply to the complete chain, or only the "head"?

@niceguy
It's a divided country right now...You'll get this result on basically everything...Phrase the question as "Obama says the sky is blue", half the people will still disagree...
With the slowest growth in medical care costs in years?
Not to worry...Hillary is bound to get better results...Not going to drop the bombshell as to why, just suffice it to say that she will...Now, getting back to the original topic, you never explained the Republican plan on immigration to me....What is it?

@EddyFree
E verify would be used by any company of any size that hires employees. This is not just used by big companies. I use it in my company to prevent hiring seemingly good employees, only to have to turn them loose because they are using false documents, a few months down the road when the SS office notifies me. That is what costs money...turnover. It is not all a big "get over on the little guy" scam.
And I will say, that most contracting companies try not to hire illegal help. It is not financially beneficial in the long run. Only to the contractors, who people or companies shouldn't or wouldn't want to have any anyway.
If only people would check status of contractors and especially check current insurances and the lack thereof. If people only realized the liability they face if someone like a lawn or tree service has a serious accident on their property. I promise you, that not one lawn service around here has a legitimate liability policy...much less naming the homeowner as additionally insured.Anyway ... way off subject. sorry.