Measles deaths

@texas2011 :
I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on TV either. Do you do everything the dr tells you to do without any question or research of your own never got a second opinion. lol I will go to the doctor or hospital when needed and I will also continue to advocate for myself, my family and even for the people like yourself.

@Atascocita888 :
No worries it wasn't great just the blah blah blah stay out of the doctors offices and hospitals if you're not going to follow their advice anyway. You know the usual flex of imaginary authority and wisdom. It was @ me hopefully I'll be added to that ignore list as well.

@Fiona : Good luck finding a "2nd opinion" from a doctor who will tell you that vaccines will kill you.
Also.......if you take any OTC like Tylenol, Advil, Sudafed.....etc.....it goes under the same scrutiny/trials/tests as vaccines so maybe steer clear of those too.....

I don't entertain anti-vaxxers. It's a waste of time.

@MrsT : Good idea.........plus,....it's a shrinking population! LOL

@Fiona : You forgot to source your "info" so I did it for you.........seems you cherry-picked certain sentences but left out crucial information, which I will provide below ----
also........darn that AI......gonna make it hard for anti-science folks to spread their misinformation and conspiracies..
---source---- AI / NY Dpt of Health
1. High Infection RatesContinued transmission: Even though fewer people died, the viruses remained highly contagious.Endemic spread: Millions of children continued to contract infections annually because natural immunity and public health measures did not stop the virus from circulating through communities.
2. The Impact of VaccinesStopping the spread: While better medical treatments successfully lowered the death rate, the introduction of widespread immunization programs (tracked by agencies like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) caused total case numbers to plummet by an additional 95% to 99%, nearly eliminating outbreaks of these diseases in regions with high uptake.

@texas2011 :
Yes, the data quoted by @fiona was correct, due to medical advances treatment of the symptoms of measles reduces death. But did not reduce infection rate- that was the vaccine.Also worth noting that there were a lot of terrible long term affects of measles for manyWhile there are people who have negative or serious side effects from vaccines, (the odds are never an absolute 0) they are extremely low - many many orders of magnitude lower than the benefit rate. So in essence thanks to the vaccines. For every person who suffers a serious side effect, hundreds of thousands of people are saved. So there are choices but regarding mandatory vaccines, the neighbors choice to ignore health care shouldn't put others kids at risk. I suppose if you are cool with parents not vaccinating their kids, then you should also be cool with them not buckling them in- in a car.

@texas2011 :
Did I say this???? No I didn't and I also wouldn't tell anyone to stay out of hospitals if they choose not to vaccinate because I'm not a horrible human.

@MrsT :
Yet here you are adding to the entertainment.

Why Was The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act Created? I read this article and there are a few things that pop out. The vaccine manufacturers were getting sued before 1988. I believe that is before our citizens became sue crazy. Those who had side effects must have been enough that the vaccine manufacturers couldn't handle the cost. So the government steps in and creates this fund taking the liability and thus the manufacturers have no liability. See the problem with that? Covid wasn't even a vaccine so there was another loophole for that one. It seems no one ever wants true transparency of what a vaccine might cause so the individual can make a choice of risk to benefit. My kids had all the shots. Of course "all the shots" back in the 80s is completely different from what ridiculous number of shots that are given today. $$
I find it funny but most think when you live in an HOA you should have the right to do what you want on and to your property, even though it DOES affect your neighbor and the neighborhood. You think killing an unborn baby is your choice. When it comes to vaccines it is societal health and you no longer should have a choice.
Talking about societal health……Look at all the laws we have and what happens if you drive drunk. Yet, people drive drunk and kill innocent people every year. The government has yet to solve that one. Why isn't there outrage over that? Yet people get all mad at those who don't get a vaccine? A couple of kids die of measles and the anti-vaxers are to blame? Yet on average, 32 people die every day in drunk-driving crashes, equating to one death every 44 minutes. Go figure which is more detrimental.

@Fiona : Yes, you kinda did. Right here ........" just ask Ryan Mojabi, Bailey Banks or Hannah Pollings parent"
Immunologists, virologists, SCIENTISTS have looked extensively into these unfounded claims by anti-vaxxers, so a plethora of sources on that, not that you would want them but ...---Minnesota Journal of Law, Science, and Technology --
"Using and Misusing Legal Decisions: Why
Anti-Vaccine Claims about NVICP Cases
Are Wrong"
scholarship.law.umn. edu/cgi/viewcontent. cgi?article=1464&con text=mjlst@Fiona : Is a person who ignores doctor's advice , then goes around the elderly, kids at school, or even worse, defy their own innocent children of current medical standards due to their undereducation a "horrible" human?
"Measles is the most contagious virus known to humans. Each infected individual can potentially infect another 18 people, and they can each go on to infect another 18. This is why outbreaks can quickly go from 2 cases to 124 in just 1 month. 90% of unvaccinated people who are exposed will get measles."
----source----National Foundation for Infectious Diseases
"How contagious is measles?"
www.nfid.org/resourc e/frequently-asked-q uestions-about-measl es/I know.......I know.......facts are not nearly as exciting though, are they? Unless you have degrees in virology, immunology, medicine, you are defying knowledge of those who do. Argue with them, not me.

And if a child dies from a car accident that was preventable, people could go to jail. I would assume a preventable measles death could be a legal battle, maybe in a co-parenting situation. Maybe there are already cases out there. Children can't help who they are born to. And as long as the parents were given the information...then, knowingly ignored medical treatment, including prevention, then they should be accountable legally for causing a preventable death.

@texas2011 : They didn't die.

@texas2011 : funny your the one that @ me.....lol Your arguing about things that are beyond your control. No matter how many passive aggressive comments you make your point is falling on deaf ears. The choices I make are because of the experiences that I have had and talking to other parents that have had the exact experience. We are lied to and if you don't believe that I don't care. You believing or not will not change my life in the slightest just as the choices I make won't change yours. The % chance that the scenario ends in knowing the exact person and their vaccination status that passed the virus to another is smaller than the 3% chance that a vaccinated person has of catching the virus anyway from a vaccinted or unvaccinated person.