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~ 9 years ago Sep 3, '14 11:59am

ISIS is also funded by oil revenues from captured territories and is now the richest terror group ever. A well conceived and successful plan to destroy them will take time to implement, unfortunately. The central gov in Iraq will have to work with the Sunnis and Kurds to accomplish this. That is why the US has only "held the line" until this is sorted out.Maliki is now gone and the Iraqis will have to sort out this political and military mess before any real and sustained progress will be accomplished.
We would have very little chance of success given the facts on the ground if we act unilaterally.

This is the consensus opinion of the military and national security personal, and I think they are correct based on the history of the region.

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~ 9 years ago Sep 3, '14 12:25pm

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~ 9 years ago Sep 3, '14 1:01pm

The Romans would allow religious freedom in the conquered territories unless it challenged their rule, they were more interested in the extraction of wealth (Taxes) resources (minerals and goods) and manpower in the form of slaves and recruits for the army.
Christianity was seen as a challenge to their power- Christ as king and a kingdom of heaven, it also challenged their religious,social, cultural and political mores.When the Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity he decreed it the official religion of the empire and pagan gods where displaced through out the empire including Egypt.Then after 600AD the Muslims conquered much of the former Roman empire in the middle east and Islam replaced Christianity. ISIS(Islamic State in Iraq and Syria a terrorist organization) or now IS wants to wipe out all other religions and make feudal Sunni Islam the religion of the world.

The Roman gods were copied from the Greeks almost exclusively.
I often wonder about completely isolated populations that do come up with very similar religious tenants

No conversation about the Egyptian goddess Isis can be complete without discussing Osiris and Horus.
That is a conversation for another thread and only the very curious or history geeks would read it, but that's alright.

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~ 9 years ago Sep 3, '14 3:05pm

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~ 9 years ago Sep 3, '14 7:56pm

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>> We might as well accept it now, with this admins hasty withdraw from Iraq before they were actually ready to defend themselves ( against every military advisors opinion ) we will be headed back to Iraq to confront ISIL/ISIS......

It will not happen under Obama, because that would admit a mistake but trust me, we are heading back there in the next few years. They are at our doorstep now, and the King of Saudi Arabia has alread warned us......

This is what happens when you are more concerned with a specific date of withdraw being accomplished then actually making the country secure before leaving................

@macdaddy:

My how quickly we forget !!! In April 2007 ( CONGRESS PASSED ) a supplementary spending bill for Iraq that SET A DEADLINE FOR TROUP WITHDRAWAL BUT PRES BUSH VETOED THIS BILL . The Bush administration later sought an agreement with the Iraq Government ( & in 2008) GW BUSH SIGNED THE US IRAQ STATUS FORCES AGREEMENT . ( IT INCLUDED A DEADLINE OF 31 DEC 2011 ) before which ( ALL ) The UNITED STATES FORCES SHALL WITHDRAW FROM IRAQI TERRITORY !!!!!! THE LAST U S TROOPS LEFT IRAQ ON DEC 18 2011 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS AGREEMENT !!!!!!! So I was sorta thinking was it Bush that left too early ???? Because under Obama the US Forces ultimately ( RETURNED ) to Iraq in summer 2014. AFTER ALL LITTLE GEORGE DID PULL THEM OUT IN 2011 MAYBE THAT IS THE HASTY WITHDRAW YOU SPEAK OF & IT WAS PRESIDENT OBAMA THAT SENT THE TROOPS BACK IN SUMMER 2014 !!!!!

@bbk:

You and RROY need to a little more Google research on this subject.

@Fairlane67:

Well put your search results up because you must have a reason for saying that ???? That is what I found in Wikipedia is it wrong ? Did they lie ? Show your research

@bbk:

Sorry so long getting back here. I never post links or refer anyone to any website. The information is there in various news site for anyone who truly looks to be informed... i do not have any desire to debate the validity of anyone's biases depending on what news source a particular story originates...otherwise I should just be ignored.

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~ 9 years ago Sep 3, '14 9:27pm

GW BUSH SIGNED THE US IRAQ STATUS FORCES AGREEMENT . ( IT INCLUDED A DEADLINE OF 31 DEC 2011 ) before which ( ALL ) The UNITED STATES FORCES SHALL WITHDRAW FROM IRAQI TERRITORY !!!!!! THE LAST U S TROOPS LEFT IRAQ ON DEC 18 2011 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS AGREEMENT

Is BBKs post factual or not?
If what she says is true it is now a historical fact.
Can you refute it Fairlane67 or not?

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~ 9 years ago Sep 3, '14 9:33pm

^^in the same google search you did to get the info you just posted, you could have found more if you cared. There is a lot more to that story. spend your own time on it...not mine.

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~ 9 years ago Sep 3, '14 9:56pm

Typical non answer to a simple question.

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~ 9 years ago Sep 3, '14 10:22pm

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~ 9 years ago Sep 3, '14 10:32pm

^^in the same google search you did to get the info you just posted, you could have found more if you cared. There is a lot more to that story. spend your own time on it...not mine.

@Fairlane67:
Why bring it up ? Why say anything at all if you aren't going to share because you SAY THERE IS ALOT MORE TO THAT STORY .If where I got my info is a lie you should go to the site & say it is a lie .I believe it is 100 % truth

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~ 9 years ago Sep 3, '14 10:40pm

Here it is...you don't like it, quit reading my posts.

This is a place that you give opinion on whatever issue you want, based on the knowledge you have of that issue. I am not on here to provide all the documentation to back up everything I have an opinion on. If you think it interesting then you can pursue your on your own accord....I read the daily news and commentary like everyone else. You will never find any post of mine where I provided a link to any story whatsoever. I give my opinion, if you care great...If you don't give a rats ***, great. That's it.

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