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sandman Online Top Forum Contributor18.9 yrs
~ 1 day, 16 hrs ago    
 
tflea: You mean federal agents? Federal employees? When you served in the Navy, did you appreciate being called a "Yanki," an "imperialist," or an "occupier" by foreigners? I doubt it. So why apply similar labels to people who are simply doing their jobs?
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Atascocita888 Top Forum Contributor4.4 yrs
~ 1 day, 15 hrs ago    
It seems people don't know what the letters ICE even stand for. Immigration Customs Enforcement. What is their job? Enforces federal laws governing border control, customs, trade, and immigration. They weren't thugs when Biden was in power and weren't they enforcing federal laws? Or did Biden tell them NOT to enforce federal laws? Dems, and not just the socialist dems, but most dems want to get rid of Immigration Enforcement Officers. Why is that? Please remind me why you want illegals in our country? Why do you want this?……..https://lawenforcementtoday.com/california-sanctuary-politicians-ice-detainers-criminal-releases
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rocket1 Top Forum Contributor1.4 yrs
~ 1 day, 14 hrs ago    
#msg2214717They weren't thugs when Biden was in power and weren't they enforcing federal laws? Or did Biden tell them NOT to enforce federal laws?
 
Atascocita888 :
You're being disingenuous here. Quick history lesson. U.S. Customs, Border Patrol, and Immigration and Naturalization Services, used to be stand alone agencies. With the creation of Homeland Security (HS), they were combined under one department umbrella.
 
That decision led to the creation of Customs and Border Protection, under which Border Patrol falls, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement, to include Homeland Security Investigations (Special Agents), and Detention and Removal Operations.
 
The current administration has used these agencies in ways they were not designed or intended for. The Border Patrol was not created to apprehend individuals within the interior of the country. They were as the name implies - BORDER PATROL. Customs officers were to enforce our laws at authorized ports of entry be they land, sea, or air.
 
ICE is the component that was designed to enforce interior immigration law. In enforcing said laws, it was accepted practice to employ targeted investigations and removals. It was not accepted practice to sweep our streets in tactical gear looking like a SEAL team, with their identities concealed. Pulling over cars and stopping individuals walking down the street indiscriminately.
 
It has the aura of a national police force run by an authoritarian. Prior administrations did not want to send that type of signal. As they didn't want the public to view them as an occupying force, in not only enforcing immigration law, but laws in general.
 
But I suppose in your mind, those are concerns only "woke people" care about. The only thing I can say is, based upon the election results, this administration woefully miscalculated the sentiment of the people in dealing with a number of issues. Immigration being one of them.
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TootsieRoll 8.2 yrs
~ 1 day, 12 hrs ago    
What if by some miracle ICE were eliminated? We did just fine without it before. I'm no expert so I'll be easy pickings but how many have actually have been sent back to Mexico and how many are captured but still here?
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Atascocita888 Top Forum Contributor4.4 yrs
~ 1 day, 12 hrs ago    
#msg2214733based upon the election results
 
rocket1 : There are still a lot of voters still on board with the removal of the illegal element in our country. Just because there are those that now flip and think it's all about gas doesn't mean the ones who voted for the removal have not flipped.
the aura of a national police force run by an authoritarian….yep and the aura of socialism run by a socialist government has another aura all around it. A child is killed in Gaza and what do the protestors say? An American murdered by an illegal and what do the non protestors say?
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Atascocita888 Top Forum Contributor4.4 yrs
~ 1 day, 12 hrs ago    
#msg2214745What if by some miracle ICE were eliminated? We did just fine without it before
 
TootsieRoll : Well, I think something like this would happen….oh wait, we have ICE and this is happening. But let us look why.
MURDERERS, SEX OFFENDERS, AND DRUG TRAFFICKERS RELEASED FROM JAILS DIRECTLY INTO CALIFORNIA COMMUNITIES
contracosta.news/202 6/02/06/murderers-se x-offenders-and-drug -traffickers-re
Now that was back in February. Let's see what is going on closer today.
California ICE Detainers: DHS Claims Nearly 24,000 Releases
immigration-analytic s.com/2026/11/03/cal ifornia-ice-detainer s/
 
So let them come across and tell yourself they are just trying to get a job. Tell yourself it is just mean to send them back. Oh, and we would only need a Border Patrol if the illegals were actually kept there at the border and not let in to go anywhere in the country they want to…..oh, and see you back for your court date in 12 years.
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