Gavin Newsom Is the BEST!

ParksideRes :
If that were the case then the convictions were based on something other than beyond a reasonable doubt. How recent is the false conviction?

Wanderer : July of this yearLife without the possibility of parole does two things. 1) it keeps the truly guilty out of society forever.
2) it gives those caught up at least a chance at getting out at some point.

Wanderer :
Not an exoneration but directly from a deep conservative governor:deathpenaltyinfo.org /news/alabama-govern or-kay-ivey-grants-c lemency-to-tofoAre you outraged with her?

ParksideRes :
I would like to see the whole story including what factors led to his conviction. He claims his innocence so was his case tried under circumstancial or beyond reasonable doubt?

ParksideRes :
Those are rare cases but cases I have come across I do feel the sentence is very justified. We just executed a death row inmate in Oct and his case was proven beyond a reasonable doubt plus the killer confessed.

ParksideRes : You picked up on asking if I am anti-constitution because I said death row get too many appeals. You ignored the part I said about fault of the police, judges, jury, appeals process if so many are being convicted who are innocent. This must be what you believe so what is breaking down in our justice system and how do we change it? Are all these people corrupt? Do they not understand beyond doubt? Do all the police plant evidence? Are judges being paid off? The system is failing according to you cause innocents are being put on death row. I reckon Newsome just saved a bunch of innocent people since you say 1 in 10 is innocent.

Atascocita888 : And those are their rights according to the Constitution. If you're saying they get too many chances then that makes it anti- Constitution. You need that appeal process if there was malfeasance.Done

Wanderer : Maybe perhaps there is a higher bar that needs to be put in place for the capital punishment.Perhaps no doubt whatsoever. Confessions that are not recanted or coerced (Waiting period). Caught on camera in the act. Enough independent witnesses who actually saw it happen firsthand. Then perhaps we could keep it for those situations. But currently beyond reasonable doubt does leave room for doubt. Hence its name. Who sets the bar at reasonable? The jury does.And that's why they are constitutionally protected appeals process. You can file as many appeals as you want as long as each appeal centers on something different.

ParksideRes : beyond a reasonable doubt. Guess you have never sat on a jury. the lawyers are very good of telling you what that means. Now days a defense lawyer will try to convince you a man from Mars may have done it so thus there is reasonable doubt. Sad, but some on a jury will fall for that. The word reasonable is just that. Again, it is sad but there are so many people who have no idea what reasonable is.

Atascocita888 : Beyond Reasonable isn't without.Meaning it does happen. Over 200 since 1973 if you've been keeping up So, if you are wrongfully convinced of capital murder, we can expect you to just take it for the sake of keeping it going?

ParksideRes : How about do something so we have better jury's and judges. Better prosecutors and defense lawyers. Perhaps go that route instead of saying, hey we make mistakes so let's just give everyone a pass and put them in prison forever…..or until some politicians lets them all walk cause it is our culture.

Atascocita888 : life in prison isn't a pass. And as long as we are human, there will be mistakes and malfeasance.

Atascocita888 : No offense but "Gavin Newson is the Best!" is not generally how I think of him. As for the death sentence, I have mixed feelings on that one. However, I do think the serial killer of young girls including Laura Kate Smither of Friendswood that they identified without a shadow of a doubt a few years back deserves it. But, what I understand, he got a life sentence, not a death sentence. He caused a lot of unnecessary pain and is just flat evil.