A lot of work ahead

Andi7 :
The unfortunate difference is following the laws and reallocation of funds, I don't think you are willing to have a clear conversation on the subject, so not going to waste a bunch of effort trying to convince you.I hope we can get be to following laws, deporting people humanely and properly. Which means not imprisoning them in prison camps or third world countries, or using lawless officers to round up and harass, assault and sometimes kill innocent people with no accountability.Much of the immigration problem could have been addressed with the proposed legislation that trump demanded be shot down before he was reelected.Need for enough immigration judges to not have people seeking asylum being free in our country for years while they waitAlso normally run under a budget, not unlimit3d funds for the immigration control. Kind of where we prioritize infrastructure repair, social services, veteran care, education spending, fema, etcetera and divide the budget 3D spending between them accordinglyNot cutting funding off to meeded areas and spending through the roof on immigration and military, exploding the budget.

Biden did try to replace border crossings with having people apply for asylum remotely online and then come into the country to wait for their h3arings. Not ideal. But according to asylum laws and humane.Should we have an asylum system (yes or no)?If the answer in no, then we really are altering who we are as a country of immigrantsIf the answer is yes, then it needs to be fixed. By laws. By Congress.

redneckroy : Same.

redneckroy : I am having a conversation. I am letting you know my perspective on the subject.
We should not overwhelm our courts with millions of "asylum" seekers. Those other countries can smell a weak president who won't enforce the laws we already have. So therefore they flood our border for "asylum". They are are breaking the laws we have and should not be allowed into our country in droves. Hence the border in closed.I'm not here to change your mind on the subject. I'm just telling you how I see it.

redneckroy : what exactly do you expect they will do? I really want your answer in order to revisit this in a year.TY

lynnsgirl : it depends on how the GOP reacts. If they bow up and double down on maga/trump nothing will happen but gridlock and investigations.Instead of investigating hunter Biden, FBI agents involved in trump raids, and trumps perceived political enemies, Congress will start investigating trump corruption. Epstein files will get more mileage, trump is going to have a hell of a time with judicial or cabinet posts, his family and friend having free cash flow from the govt might slow to a trickle. Amd expect at least one attempt at impeachment.Congress will have a hard time doing anything substantial due to trump veto power, but there will be a lot brought to light.Billions of dollars in dark money pushing deep state conspiracies and media looking for hard distractions from gop corruptionExpect Russia to triple down on push for trumps support as they now know well that they are working against the clockEuropean former alliances are probably breathing easier today, but waiting with baited breath to see the damage control efforts by the new Congress, but don't expect the level of trust or loyalty to ever return, the world has learned a hard lesson.

lynnsgirl :
If the GOP wants too e past trump, they have a golden opportunity. Voters memories are about two weeks long, they could dump him now and have plenty of time to restructure and prepare for 2028, otherwise the madman stays at the helm, wreaking havoc and sinking the party deeper.

I wonder how many people who are celebrating today will feel regret in a few years. Here is my prediction if we have a liberal president elected in 2028.By 2029 - the border will be openBy 2030 - the Supreme Court will be packed with liberals, at least 3 new justices will be added to the current 9, because 9 just isn't enough.By 2030 - there will be some sort of prohibition against requiring an ID to vote.By 2030 - the electoral college will be abolished, doesn't matter what the Founding Fathers wrote into the costitution, it will be gone, and it might not be gone via a constitutional amendment.Tell me I'm wrong about this stuff.

Andi7 :
As in all things, we should have strict limits on asylum, but refusing to follow the laws instead of changing the laws is wrong. We are supposed to be a nation of laws. I don't know how to say that clearer. Just because someone is here illegally, they still get due process and maintain human rights. So we can agree to disagree, I'm cool with that, and cool with the fact that we likely agree on most everything no politicalI hope the Democrats don't take attitude of catering to the extreme left, but rather to the moderates and deny extremism on either side.I also hope the gop is recovers to the party of law and order. Ethics and legal standards.

redneckroy :
I intend to start contacting new AG Nathan Johnson about suing some of the student loan providers as the last AG did not support the last lawsuit initiated and won by 23 other States. I also want to address the high insurance costs amd how they can alleviate those what I consider rip off rates.

Enzo : You are absolutely wrong about that stuff.

Olaf: Challenge accepted: let's you and I revisit this in 2030. I've made a reminder note in my calendar .

Enzo :
The border was never opened in the sense that you and others speak of it. Secondly, when people talk about "the border", they only consider the Southern U.S. They never consider the thousands of people that fly here on various visas and then never leave. Not to mention the Northern Border with Canada.But since you and others are fixated on the Southern Border let's talk about that. Migrants coming through the SB has been a challenge for DECADES for both political parties. The question has been, how do we enforce immigration law, while at the same time show a level of humanity? Additionally, it is well known in certain circles that business interest actually encourage lawmakers to give a wink and nod on the issue as many of them depend on migrant labor for their industries, such as farming and home construction. Also, folks tend to forget or perhaps not know that the only time an official amnesty was given to non-citizens that crossed our borders, was done under the presidency of Ronald Reagan.Now as to doing away with the electoral college (EC), I'm for that. As a matter of fact, several states have already signed compacts to declare the winner in the presidential election based upon popular vote. When the EC was created by the founders, it was done for dubious reasons in the first place. www.history.com/arti cles/electoral-colle ge-founding-fathers- constitutional-As for requiring an ID to vote. You'd be surprised to know most Democrats don't have a problem with that. However, what they do have a problem with is obstructionist laws or rules blocking access to the ballot box like taking away polling sites, restricting mail-in voting, and wanting to prosecute people if they give a voter so much as a bottle of water while standing in line.

Andi7 : then you should agree that this should have been taken care of by changing the law. But that didn't happen because someone said it shouldn't happen. As long as it's on the books, we have to use the asylum laws the way they are written. We can't just ignore them because we don't like them.