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Please Pray for David Banmiller & Family

Please Pray for David Banmiller & Family

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~ 9 years ago   Nov 23, '14 7:15pm  
I wasn't going to comment any further on this but I feel I need to add something. I have the furthest respect for this family and don't expect ANYTHING from them. They do not OWE anyone anything. Hopefully some day when and if they're ready they'll feel they can open up and possibly help other families & children. That is all.
My main concern is with the attitude of some people here - not the family! The idea that nobody should dare speak about this child's death is completely bizarre and unreasonable. The plan to ask children at school not to ask questions is not only completely unrealistic but unhealthy (and obviously not working). There is nothing wrong with asking questions. However there IS something wrong with feeling it's ok to berate anyone who wants to talk about the situation. It's all a natural part of the grieving & healing process. The death of a young child is a traumatic experience and people need to be able to talk about it. Stop making it into something inappropriate and ugly - because it is not. People grieve in different ways, wanting to talk about a death does in no way equal disrespect and I truly resent people trying to imply as such. That is all I have to say on the subject.
 
@Klarak:
 
My head is about to explode.
 
Seriously. You've voiced your opinion. YOUR OPINION MEANS NOTHING TO THIS FAMILY! Just sit on your hands and comment no further, please. THIS IS NOT YOUR FAMILY.
 
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mom69 Active Indicator LED Icon  New Member
~ 9 years ago   Nov 23, '14 7:16pm  
"Speaking out that the family should share is WAY WRONG! "
"How Dare we demand anything from them."
 
both comments directed towards Klarak when she did and said neither of those things.
 
As for my comment, it was a direct reply to someone who had stated that "the circumstances are better left unsaid" and indirectly to the school whose letter said something to the effect of the circumstances being unimportant.
 
I disagree with both statements while fully acknowledging that "I understand why the family is not ready to discuss this at this time".
 
My comment was not directed to the family or about the family but merely an opinion on our society and school system and how we handle situations that affect children. My top priority is and has always been children. My children and your children....I want them safe and healthy and preferably happy. If, as a society, we were more apt to discuss than to avoid, perhaps we could prevent just one child's death or injury and that to me would be worth it.
 
Now, that is my opinion, and no one has to give a rat's behind about it. However, no matter how strongly I disagreed with someone else's opinion, I would never wish to punch them, call them derogatory names, or imply or state that they don't care about the life or pain of another human being. In my opinion, therein lies yet another issue with our society that we should all work on.
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 24, '14 12:43am  

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>> I completely disagree that the circumstances are best left unsaid. This is the fifth instance of middle school aged children that I personally know of or know acquaintances of in the last 6 months. Those numbers scare the crap out of me and I wish everyone would get their heads out of the sand, schools included, and start helping parents learn more about this problem and what we can do as parents and as a community to change this trend. My hearts aches for the Banmiller family, and I am scared to death for my own. Four out of the five were boys.... While I understand why the family is not ready to discuss this at this time, I don't think the community and school should be shoving it under a rock. Who knows who might be helped just by making people aware of what is going on and providing resources for assistance rather than leaving it to the middle school gossip mill.
 
@mom69:
I agree with you . But I'm guessing 5 family's have had their lives fall apart in seconds , I mean none of us wake up in the morning thinking our day WILL END with the loss of one of our children . Given some time hopefully 1 or all of these folks will step forward & will bring attention to how their children were lost & will have SOME WISDOM to pass on to other parents .I don't think this falls under our schools umbrella to start helping parents learn more about this problem .I really doubt anyone at any of the schools is qualified to talk about this subject . I think when a teacher sees a child bullied they should stop the bulling & take the offender to the principal's office & call BOTH sets of parents . If a teacher sees a child that they think could be depressed , or perceives perhaps some type of child abuse yes they need to report to the principle & see to it the parents or proper people are notified .A teacher cannot help what happens to children when they are at home with their parents unless as I've stated it were to be some type of abuse that the teacher perceives .
 
I agree with you that these circumstances are not best left unsaid & we all need to crawl out from under a rock .I think back to times I was out shopping & saw how very awful a child was treated in a store & wondered how that child was treated at home when all alone with this parent . So there are many subjects that people should care about , talk about ,& TAKE ACTION on by trying to bring change .No one is more vulnerable than children .
 
 
@bbk:
@ Humbletexan I have not phoned ,written , or gone over to this family's home . So just how have I disrespected their privacy ????You've said must we go on & on & on & on with zero respect ???? I never said I think this family is RESPONSIBLE FOR TEACHING ANYONE ANYTHING ! I agree this family owes me nothing & I for certain am not asking them for anything .
 
What I said was GIVEN SOME TIME ( HOPEFULLY ) one( or all of these folks ) will step forward & will bring attention to how their children were lost & will have some WISDOM to pass on to other parents ..Not they need to do this are should do this . I am responding to mom 69 who knows of (5 other family's) I can only assume have lost children to this accident & she says 4 out of the 5 were boys .& she is afraid she wants help from the school are community . She is not being ugly or vicious she is afraid & giving her opinion exactly like I did .
 
I go on & say this is not for the school to deal with & I don't think they are qualified to deal with . Then I speak about things that happen at school like children being bullied & that the school should handle that & contact both parents . If they see a child they perceive as being depressed or a child that they think perhaps abused in some way . I AM NOT SPEAKING ABOUT THIS CHILD THAT HAD THE ACCIDENT ! I am speaking in general about children at the school .The school has nothing to do with your child in your house unless & I AM SPEAKING IN GENERAL if you every day saw a child in your class come with bruises all over SHOULDN'T THAT TEACHER PERCIVE PERHAPS SOMETHING IS GOING ON IN THIS CHILDS HOME ?????? I talk about children I have seen treated what I thought was to rough when I was out shopping .
 
So Humbletexan 1 IS THERE ANY PART OF THAT ,THAT YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND ???? I mean do you think you can figure this out now ????
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 24, '14 1:34am  
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Seriously.......HELP!!!!
 
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 24, '14 1:56am  
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~ 9 years ago   Jan 29, '15 9:56pm  
@Goldilox @Goldilox I'm neighbors with a boy who is friends with David and he was an amazing person and friend from what he has told me. I'm still struggling to know what happened even though we shouldn't talk about it but I want to know in order to help my neighbor ease the pain a little. Could you possibly DM me a tiny bit of background info at least? Thank you and I deeply apologize if it looks a little prying
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~ 9 years ago   Jan 30, '15 5:38am  
@spaceface20 This is is not the place to attempt to satisfy your morbid curiosity surrounding a child's death. I've heard of nosey neighbors, but good grief... This is sickening IMHO.
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spaceface20 Active Indicator LED Icon  New Member
~ 9 years ago   Jan 30, '15 6:05am  
@Annie.Mouse How is it nosey? I'm just a kid who feels bad for his friend...no need to be rude. Good gosh seriously?? I ought to report you to speak to a kid this way.
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~ 9 years ago   Jan 30, '15 6:24am  
@spaceface20
" I'm still struggling to know what happened"
"I want to know"
" DM me a tiny bit of background info at least?"
 
That is what makes your post "nosey."
If you are a "kid" trying to help a friend who is having difficulties with the loss, maybe you should ask a grown-up. There are counselors who are trained to deal with these issues.
 
Asking for details regarding this child's death is most likely not going benefit a "kid" in helping a friend.
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spaceface20 Active Indicator LED Icon  New Member
~ 9 years ago   Jan 30, '15 6:32am  
@Annie.Mouse The "kid" should not be in quotation marks. I'm 11 yrs old. All I asked was a question, and I needed an answer, not your condescending cattiness.
 
Sorry that feeling worry for one of your friends is so "nosey". To satisfy you, I promise I won't care when something bad happens to a friend of mine. Would that make you happy?
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~ 9 years ago   Jan 30, '15 6:40am  
@spaceface20 Very articulate for 11years old.
 
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Thread should be locked!!!!!!
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spaceface20 Active Indicator LED Icon  New Member
~ 9 years ago   Jan 30, '15 7:08am  
@Annie.Mouse Why is it so strange that I'm smarter than you are? You're just another ageist ignorant adult.
I'm NOT a troll, I'm a real 11 yr old trying to help his friend! What, may I ask, is the big deal?? You are possibly the most inconsiderate person I've ever met!
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