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~ 9 years ago   Nov 20, '14 5:21pm  
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 20, '14 5:40pm  
What is "temporary citizenship"? That sounds totally bogus.
 
Illegals should not be given any type of citizenship, either on a permanent or temporary basis, with this EO... Perhaps it's a temporary legal status, but not citizenship (no right to vote)
 
If Obama plans to give away citizenships to millions with the stroke of a pen, I believe articles of impeachment should be brought up against him. One thing is to try to put a bandaid to fix our immigration issues while congress acts on it, but to fix this unilaterally as you have described here is another thing
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 20, '14 5:57pm  
He can't make anything permanent, so he can't make guarantees either...Another President can easily overturn it with the stroke of a pen....
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tb505 Active Indicator LED Icon 11
~ 9 years ago   Nov 20, '14 5:58pm  
Haven't read anything on it, but I don't think it is citizenship.
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 20, '14 6:09pm  
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 20, '14 6:29pm  
ooo he's slick alright all that grease in his hair
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 20, '14 9:35pm  
And if anyone would like to explain how this is different from the 1986(?) Immigration overhaul where about 3 million illigal immigrants were allowed to stay?
 
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I know you were not born yet but here it is
 
That law was passed by congress and signed into law......
SEPERATION OF POWERS....
Congress writes the laws
Senate approves the laws
President signs and ENFORCES THE LAWS
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 20, '14 9:46pm  
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HumbleGirl Active Indicator LED Icon 14
~ 9 years ago   Nov 20, '14 9:47pm  

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Emoticon I have not. It's me
 
@nikkiole:
 
The writing seems different.
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~ 9 years ago   Nov 20, '14 9:48pm  
And if anyone would like to explain how this is different from the 1986(?) Immigration overhaul where about 3 million illigal immigrants were allowed to stay?
 
@nikkiole:
 
Assuming this is a serious question, the 1986 Simpson-Mazzoli Act was a negotiated act of Congress, split at the time between a Republican Senate and Democrat House.....signed into law by Pres Reagan. The difference is obvious, the follow on EO from Reagan and Bush were clarifications to exemptions under the Act. Tonight's announcement enjoys no prior Congressional action. Hope that helps
 
That said, I still think the Pres is good to go on this....and frankly, it doesn't change the situation on the ground much So far, we're not passing out citizenships, etc. And it won't register a tiny ripple in economic benefits to the country. I say that with one caveat....I've not seen the language in the EO. The Pres has a habit of being unable to reconcile his words with actions.......i.e. despite assurances, I've had to change two long time doctors for instance. But, with this hedge, I contend this was high order grandstanding.
 
A big question is what to do with the 8million illegals who don't fall under tonites announced guidelines.
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Emoticon I have not. It's me
 
@nikkiole:
 
The writing seems different.
 
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I agree!
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