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Censoring Social Media

Censoring Social Media

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by: rocket Active Indicator LED Icon 15 OP 
~ 9 years ago   Sep 18, '14 8:58am  
In my opinion the time has come to censor social media. My reasoning is this, groups like ISIS and other terrorist organizations are utilizing social media to attract more individuals to join with them. For these reasons I think any social media content intended to incite or threaten violence should be automatically blocked. Now smart phones might present a different challenge. However they would have to mount a massive effort to text or send videos globally.
 
Now I'm fully aware of the freedom of speech issue. However this is the 21st Century, as such free flow of information has gotten a lot more complicated. For instance child pornography is already censored by major Internet search engines. That's why child pornographers are forced into deploying subversive methods to peddle their filth, therefore not making it easily obtainable.
 
So I don't know why this same concept could not be applied to social media in specific and the Internet as a whole. There would be no instant communication and slick youtube videos to attract the young. The most they could do in real time is use the airways to get its message out. But doing this would have a major disruption on recruitment efforts.
 
Anyway that's my two cents. I will be interested to see what others think.
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Posterguy Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 9 years ago   Sep 18, '14 10:16am  
I agree with you on the IS issue, but who gets to be the decider on what should or should not be censored?
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redneck roy Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 9 years ago   Sep 18, '14 10:40am  
In my opinion - if you want government sponsored filtered internet move to a country with less personal freedoms. My biggest problem with Patriot act was the sacrifice of personal freedoms......
 
by the way - viewing this material over the internet is one of the best ways to be identified by big brother to be investigated. In that aspect - I think the feds would lose a valuable tool if your ideas came to pass.
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Jevans Active Indicator LED Icon 1
~ 9 years ago   Sep 18, '14 10:45am  
Freedom comes at a high cost sometimes. If you're willing to sacrifice your personal freedoms for a sense of false security then roy said it best. As we have seen with the NSA leaks the Patriot Act was intended to help us target and apprehend terrorists but also became a tool that was used to mine data on every one of us.
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bbk Active Indicator LED Icon 11
~ 9 years ago   Sep 18, '14 10:54am  
I agree also with both of you .Meaning rocket & poster guy .
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rocket Active Indicator LED Icon 15 OP 
~ 9 years ago   Sep 18, '14 2:42pm  
Freedom comes at a high cost sometimes. If you're willing to sacrifice your personal freedoms for a sense of false security then roy said it best. As we have seen with the NSA leaks the Patriot Act was intended to help us target and apprehend terrorists but also became a tool that was used to mine data on every one of us.
 
@Jevans:
 
I can understand you and Roy's position. After-all that's what this conversation is for, different points of view. In reference to mining data some major corporations have been doing that for years. I would argue search engines like Google and online companies like Amazon no more about people than the NSA. For me losing a small portion of the Internet would not equate to the loss of a personal freedom.
 
By the way I have no illusion in regards to security. I'm merely suggesting that blocking content from an organization like ISIS would make it a little more difficult for them to recruit and operate.
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EddyFree Active Indicator LED Icon 10
~ 9 years ago   Sep 18, '14 8:32pm  
@rocket:
 
In my opinion the time has come to censor social media. My reasoning is this, groups like ISIS and other terrorist organizations are utilizing social media to attract more individuals to join with them.

I'm not a fan of censorship at all, even here...We do that, they "win" by reducing our freedoms(again)...Look at the airport security hassles we have to live with today...What will we give up next?
 
For these reasons I think any social media content intended to incite or threaten violence should be automatically blocked.

Who would make the decision on what's "acceptable"? Dangerous area there to me...
 
Now I'm fully aware of the freedom of speech issue. However this is the 21st Century, as such free flow of information has gotten a lot more complicated.

Why can't we be more aggressive than they are with a positive message educating the social media crowd about just how wrong and dangerous their philosophy is?
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bbk Active Indicator LED Icon 11
~ 9 years ago   Sep 18, '14 9:53pm  
After thinking about it why censor social media ???? Who is going to censor CNN , Fox & the other stations & newspapers ? I don't ever see that happening.
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BusyMommy Active Indicator LED Icon 14
~ 9 years ago   Sep 19, '14 1:02am  
It would make more sense to secure the border.
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blueyes Active Indicator LED Icon 15
~ 9 years ago   Sep 19, '14 7:33am  
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B12Fan Active Indicator LED Icon 6
~ 9 years ago   Sep 19, '14 9:11am  
I'm not for any kind of censorship.
 
Pull out some history books. Look at countries and nations that have a strong history of trying to sensor things from their people. Make a list of those countries and ask yourself if you really want to be like them.
 
Germany comes to mind. Before WWII the Nazi party worked their butts off to sensor just about anything that didn't line up with their party. When it started many German people were in favor of this. It seems like it lead to a much stronger and unified Germany (and at first probably did). But before you know it they were so censored that many of their own people had no clue how far out of control their own government was getting. I don't think I need to go on with how far out of control they got.
 
Sun Tzu reminds us in the Art of War that it is far better to know your enemy. If we don't know ISIS to the best of our abilities they will not get an upper hand.
 
I will hop off my soap box now. I know my opinion is different than many others and I can respect that. This is just where I personal stand on an issue like censorship.
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rocket Active Indicator LED Icon 15 OP 
~ 9 years ago   Sep 19, '14 9:47am  
^^^Nazi Germany?
 
What I'm speaking of is not even in the same ballpark. Most of you seem to be wary of who would do the censoring? That's why I used child pornography as an example. Again the major search engines have some technological system in place that apparently filters that stuff. So in actuality some censoring is already taking place (in this case thank goodness).
 
Anyway good discussion. I'm still on the fence as to whether unfettered access to the Internet is considered a freedom. Let me chaw on that some more.
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B12Fan Active Indicator LED Icon 6
~ 9 years ago   Sep 19, '14 11:13am  
^^^Nazi Germany?
 
What I'm speaking of is not even in the same ballpark. Most of you seem to be wary of who would do the censoring? That's why I used child pornography as an example. Again the major search engines have some technological system in place that apparently filters that stuff. So in actuality some censoring is already taking place (in this case thank goodness).
 
Anyway good discussion. I'm still on the fence as to whether unfettered access to the Internet is considered a freedom. Let me chaw on that some more.
 
 
@rocket:
 
I know I picked an extreme example. But my point is they didn't start out extreme. They ended extreme after starting small.
 
I would prefer we not even start small. It may (and of course might not) lead to where we don't want to go.
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rocket Active Indicator LED Icon 15 OP 
~ 9 years ago   Sep 25, '14 9:32am  
As I said in my last response I wanted to chaw on the arguments made here that access to social media was basically a right or freedom. After thinking about the matter some more I stand by my first opinion. In my view one doesn't have a right to uncensored social media no more than one has a right to fly.
 
For example, the TSA has restrictions on who may fly based upon a watch list. Additionally as everyone knows there are searches at checkpoints in an attempt to prevent people from boarding with unauthorized items. Many complain that these searches are sometimes intrusive and treads on their rights. But the fact of the matter is if a person doesn't want to go through this process they can find another means of transportation such as the bus.
 
I was watching the news last night and apparently governmental representatives around the globe also find ISIS access to social media troubling. So I imagine somewhere there's a committee that has been formed that is tasked with trying to figure out how this can be curtailed. Based upon the opinions here if the U.S. was to formally agree to assist with this restriction there would no doubt be an outcry. But sometimes things must be done for the greater good, especially when one may not have a right to it in the first place.
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chasinghosts Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 9 years ago   Sep 28, '14 11:17pm  
I too agree with this. There are way too many people knowing way too much, spreading propaganda which incites, and perpetuating the problems as well.
 
Just because we have freedom of speech doesn't mean we have to allow others our rights. If you're not a citizen don't expect to have the same rights here that we have.
They should just cut them off from civilization. Shut their cable and cell towers down (warn all known ally employees that are over there to get out first) locate their targets and then unload on them. Why should they have to ask the New's permission for every step they take? John McCain has to get a play by play every day and then make it public. Seems to me they are giving away secrets daily. If I remember right, we were never privy to war strategies until something was over and done with. I believe government and military worked smarter in previous years.
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